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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Tue 05, 2017 4:39 pm

Nice rebuttal, so you agree...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Wed 06, 2017 2:03 pm

Before ending DACA, Trump said dreamers should "rest easy."

A lie, but whatever. Trump is putting the Congress to the test. They may well do nothing, they have a backlog of things to deal with but we'll see if the Republicans can actually get something done.

From Commentary: not Breitbart, but a principled conservatism...
The poll of 3,063 DACA beneficiaries in 46 states found the average age of arrival into the U.S. was just six. A majority are between the ages of 22 and 28. Ninety-one percent are employed today. Eighty percent received a driver’s license. Ninety-eight percent describe themselves as bilingual. After receiving DACA status, 65 percent bought a car; 16 percent bought a house. Though their median hours worked per week remained static, their income doubled—purchasing power and the associated contribution to the tax base are tangible social benefits.
..the politics of DACA’s phase-out would be brutal. There are hundreds of thousands of sympathetic and politically mobilized young adults who will protest this decision. The cohort that opposes legal status for this class of immigrant, by contrast, is too small and disorganized to be visible. Public opinion polling has consistently shown the majority of Americans do not want to see legal status for immigrant offspring revoked. The majority of DACA recipients are young adults—the oldest among them is 36—and many are integrated, productive members of their communities. The economic and social trauma associated with their expulsion back into the shadows would be intolerable.

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Wed 06, 2017 3:07 pm

The dems and the rinos will prevail I'm afraid, proving the total disrespect for our Constitution and laws...

Break Amerika first, yes komrades?? Always playing with the heart strings for ultimate, nefarious gains...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Wed 06, 2017 3:19 pm

Always playing with the heart strings
Utter crap. These people contribute: work, school, pay taxes, make stuff, buy stuff. Tell the Congress to grow a pair and legislate, its why we pay them, after all.. Course the freedom c would rather whine and blame CNN for their failure to get anything done... Love it how they yell at the political class, they ARE the political class...

You and Little Jeff get a little too excited thinking of white vans with ICE guys rounding them all up, shipping them to a country they've never laid eyes on...

You think it's smart to stuff the prisons with low level non violent types? That's rule of law too..

Le's give Donny his wall he promised would be paid for by somebody else in exchange for a path to citizenship for these people. You need the wall to feel safe... so write your check!

Course, most drugs come in by ship and air, but don't tell the Breitbart dopes, might upset them...

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Re: President Trump

Post by HokieAl » Sep Wed 06, 2017 3:37 pm

Mac66 wrote:
Sep Wed 06, 2017 3:19 pm

Utter crap. These people contribute: work, school, pay taxes, make stuff, buy stuff.
Ok Mac, when you return to your winter home and find out someone has broken in and is living there and vacuuming the house, I'm sure you won't kick them out. You'll be sure to add them to your healthcare plan and buy them all their food.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Wed 06, 2017 3:51 pm

if they vacuum, I'm good.

No compromise? Secure the border, you get to pay for the wall, and they get to stay? Fine them, certify them, make them report to ICE every 6 months for a hernia exam?

Nothing good enough for you folks, ever. The whining is something else...

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Wed 06, 2017 5:23 pm

Utter crap. These people contribute:
Oh sure... Your handlers ALWAYS use the heart strings trick but the bottom line is that the poorest people in Chicago are worse off then when your savior promised to lift them eight plus years ago...
Biggest problem?? No fathers... The state runs the family... Real cool...

The bama lifted himself... So what's new?? It's a fight all the way to the one percent club, screw the rank and file or VOTERS...
His incarnation as saul alinski is working his mojo...

There are too many disadvantaged people around the world and you are free to welcome as many as you can afford...
USA is not new to the mission business... 2 B 1 ASK 1...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Wed 06, 2017 5:44 pm

the poorest people in Chicago
Nothing doing with the red herring. When you can't refute, you always head back to Chicago. You forgot to bring in Venezuela, Alinsky, etc.

Go for the compromise; pay up! Donny needs the cash...

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Re: President Trump

Post by Eric K » Sep Wed 06, 2017 5:57 pm

"Tell congress to grow a pair and legislate"
They did legislate. That's why they are called illegal immigrants. That's why Obama admitted that his executive order ( DACA) was illegal. But congress nor any attorney General at time had any balls to challenge it.
Protecting themselves not the citizens of this country.
You know it's a good point by Hokie Al.
Why don't these Elizabeth Warren types open up their homes to all these people without any asst. from govt.
Let us know in 1 years time how it's going.
I bet Mac 66 won't be singing the same tune he is now.

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Wed 06, 2017 6:06 pm

When you can't refute, you always head back to Chicago.
Says who?? Pointing to the cancerous, rotten core is always the best reference!! Bottom line so to speak...
And do WE have plenty of references!!! 33 trillion for the war on poverty now?? How did that work out??

Back to refuting, IT'S CALLED BREAKING THE LAW, CONSTITUTION, and tinkering against REALITY...
Get on to yourself!! Your politics are in the meat wagon headed over a cliff...
Your prince didn't quite totally transform the country and shrill would have finished us off fer sure!!
OK, you are a kerry licker, we get it!!!

Watch a real man, leader, president with the man pants have a go...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Wed 06, 2017 7:23 pm

Watch a real man,
The same guy who said that his personal Viet Nam was not getting an STD? The same grab em by the unmentionables guy? The same guy who inherited millions from Daddy? Same guy who paid off the ladies to not rat him out? Same guy who insults women, you remember the fat pig guy?

Yeah, a real Lincoln..what a hero...

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Re: President Trump

Post by Eric K » Sep Wed 06, 2017 7:29 pm

You talking about Ted Kennedy?

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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Wed 06, 2017 8:17 pm

How clever.

Keep on defaming dead Democrats. Won't help Donny to grow up.

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Wed 06, 2017 9:13 pm

Most democrats look dead these days, shame on who wasn't paying attention... zombies...

Defunct are; dnc, the party, fake media, pc, southern poverty law center... All these and then some...

Fine experiment, all done, wait outside...

Marx is dead so long live our mighty King...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Eric K » Sep Wed 06, 2017 9:38 pm

I thought you would like that one.
Had to throw some humor in there.

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Re: President Trump

Post by JIMD » Sep Thu 07, 2017 6:31 am

Mac you have to agree Trump is going about DACA the right way. Obama's order was weak subject to the next Presidents override. Government flip flopping is bad for all evolved. The next Prez could reinstate the DACA order. If congress does not come up with a solution, start deporting.
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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Thu 07, 2017 6:49 am

Besides, shrillary is on Howie's death pool... Dead is dead, go away!!!
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Thu 07, 2017 8:04 am

Obama did this to score points by exposing Republican inaction and indifference to immigration reform. And, because he thought that HC would win and get a bill including DACA.

Aside from his lying promises and assurances, Trump did do the right thing by kicking it to Congress. If it were an honest process, that is.

Trump is playing an inside game with Bannon, looking to marginalize Ryan and Mitch; ultimate goal being hard line nuts like the Freedom Caucus in charge.

He embarrassed his own leadership yesterday. All part of the plan, Bannon pulling the strings.

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Thu 07, 2017 8:15 am

?? Will it matter in the big pix?? jobs - economy - perception - outlook, vs. fake media and black masked resistance
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Thu 07, 2017 8:33 am

from National Review:
Consistent with this utterly inconsistent approach to DACA, nothing he has done as president makes sense. He has contended (correctly) that DACA is unconstitutional, yet he has continued administering the program for the past eight months. He has now had his attorney general announce that the program is rescinded because it is unconstitutional, but the program is not really rescinded and — as Jack Goldsmith rightly pointed out on Twitter yesterday — the Justice Department has not withdrawn the Obama DOJ’s 2014 opinion supporting DACA’s purported constitutionality. The only “action” Trump has taken is to bar new DACA applications for six months, starting now.

Over those same six months, though, any pending applications will continue to be considered (and, in the main, granted, you can bank on it); and any two-year work permits that would otherwise expire will be reauthorized. But if the program is unconstitutional because a president has no authority to confer, among other things, such positive legal benefits as work permits, what is the legal rationale for continuing it for another half-year (having already continued it for eight months), during which the work permits will continue to be issued and honored? Now, after all of Attorney General Sessions’s huffing and puffing yesterday, Trump not only announces that he wants the program legalized; he further signals that he is prepared to continue going Obama’s executive-action route if Congress cannot get a bill passed.
No sure about all this, but it illustrates what a phony your guy is...

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Thu 07, 2017 8:58 am

Breaking the law is OK as long as it brings the country down, eh??

Trump is no longer welcome in Chicago, I get it...

The up side is that dems have for so long held the repubs to much higher standards then themselves...

That worked... Like parasitic fish clean the whale... Good!! But we don't hear 'save the parasites'...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Thu 07, 2017 12:00 pm

No sure about all this, but it illustrates what a phony your guy is..
I used to think you were just an anti Trump troll. Now I'm beginning to believe you truly are "not sure about all this." Just another self involved nut job who cannot stop posting. Afraid if he does stop he'll fade away. So similar to Budges. Like Budges edited by a third party.

Nothing personal. I just feel the need to remind people about you from time to time.

Hey, have you checked out that new TV series, "Broad City"? Now there is something that could occupy your time. What's it about, you ask? Nothing.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Thu 07, 2017 12:17 pm

Just another self involved nut job who cannot stop posting.
Thanks for the kind thoughts. Given that you reside in Trump's nether regions, I'm not surprised you find an opposing view objectionable. And since you can't debate the merits, you resort to personal insults. Whatever.

Thanks for the free therapy. Enjoy the game tonight.

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Re: President Trump

Post by JIMD » Sep Thu 07, 2017 2:11 pm

Mac86 he's got a point, you're like any typical moonbat.
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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Thu 07, 2017 4:31 pm

At least he is a nice moonbat... I find most liberals are OK, just mislead and misdirected, if not totally consumed...
Lefty is another story...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Fri 08, 2017 5:12 am

At least he is a nice moonbat...
"Nice"? Good grief! God save me from "nice"

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Fri 08, 2017 5:24 am

Good Grief!
Well, tolerable at least... I do wish that he would see the big picture...

We were warned in the 40s and 50s, but then it was un-PC to say anything...

I should have cracked the 'PC' code sooner... Introduced by you know who...
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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Fri 08, 2017 5:37 pm

Don't worry Mac66. Our overwrought, yet very nice Attorney General, Maura Healey, has filed yet one more lawsuit against that pesky Donald Trump. That'll teach 'im! And Massachusetts will become a better place because of it - no doubt.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Fri 15, 2017 8:39 am

Trump is conspiring with Democrats, Pelosi of all people, to offer amnesty and a path to citizenship to nearly a million people here illegally.
Hell hath no fury like Ann Coulter scorned.

The author of last year’s worshipful paean to our 45th president, In Trump We Trust: E Pluribus Awesome, fielded nine pointed questions from The Daily Beast on Thursday.

It was a day on which she expended much of her wrath on denouncing her former hero (and confessing that she didn’t really like him that much to begin with) in a disgusted response to the news that Donald Trump is colluding with his Wednesday night dinner guests, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, to enact a law allowing 800,000 so-called “Dreamers” to stay in the United States while delaying construction on that supposed wall of his along the Mexican border.

“This guy is like a couch—he picks up whatever the person sitting on him is wearing,” Coulter slammed Trump contemptuously during one of her multiple right-wing radio appearances (this one with WBAL’s Derek Hunter) that amounted to a primal scream against the president’s support for DACA (i.e. “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals”).

“Whatever his audience wants him to say, he says—which is why some of us have been concerned.”

Coulter was even harsher on social media, where her fusillade of insults for her erstwhile fearless leader amounted to a Category 5 Twitter storm.
“At this point, who DOESN’T want Trump impeached?” she demanded in response to a presidential tweet that the so-called Dreamers “have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own—brought in by parents at young age.”
Sound the alarm, Vladdy, anther dangerous troller.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Fri 15, 2017 9:07 am

Sound the alarm, Vladdy, anther dangerous troller.
Yeah. As much as I like Ann Coulter's style you have to be wary of these book writers sometimes. Too much self irresponsible agrandizement going on. Does she have a new book coming out?

Do you remember during the presidential campaign when Ann was being interviewed by several fake news panelists and they asked her who she was voting for? Why Donald Trump, of course, she said without batting an eye. The look of utter horror on everyone of the panelist's faces was priceless. And it was probably a good indicator of what Donald had in store by their hands.

Whichever side you are on , if you are an author, you have to admit Donald has been an excellent money maker. Ann knows she has plenty of time to reconsider and make things up to him.

Impeachment isn't going anywhere.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Sep Fri 15, 2017 9:43 am

You're missing the point. Impeachment is some far left crazy fantasy. The reality is he just tossed his base, the folks who like yourself think he walks on water, under the bus. And the wall? Always symbolic, lost as a chip.

He's a RINO.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Eric K » Sep Fri 15, 2017 9:56 am

Who else is she going to vote for?
There was no one else as they all were pretty much carbon cutouts of Hillary.
I think everyone is sounding alarm way to quickly. I'd rather wait until I see his signature on a piece of document that allows them to stay before people go off the deep end.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Fri 15, 2017 10:41 am

Mac66 wrote...
You're missing the point. Impeachment is some far left crazy fantasy. The reality is he just tossed his base, the folks who like yourself think he walks on water, under the bus. And the wall? Always symbolic, lost as a chip.
I havnt missed the point. Impeachment, for whatever reason, was the left's last "chip". Like you, the left hates Donald Trump but they really cannot articulate why and they have no platform to replace his with. He has not lost his base because #1 As Eric asks, who else is there? #2 Because at this point most people, with two synapse to fire on one another, are on to what the false media, the obstructionist, impeachment crazy congress, and the likes of Antifa are up to. #3 They now know anything Donald can accomplish will most likely happen after mid terms and more so during Donald's second term.

Eric wrote...
I think everyone is sounding alarm way to quickly. I'd rather wait until I see his signature on a piece of document that allows them to stay before people go off the deep end.
You are correct sir! But personally I think playing Nancy and Dick along will turn out to be a genius move.

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Re: President Trump

Post by specialties » Sep Fri 15, 2017 10:50 am

Kinda gets dicey, eh mushy??

Maybe antifa can help you after all, what about free people saying things that cannot be said, so saith the proletareat ...

The rancid stink from over that way is well past ripe... DuckDuckGo ( how about an IPO )
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Re: President Trump

Post by Eric K » Sep Fri 15, 2017 12:20 pm

If Trump does sign off on amnesty to 4 million people I predict he will switch to a democrat.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Fri 15, 2017 1:52 pm

If Trump does sign off on amnesty to 4 million people I predict he will switch to a democrat.
Why on earth would he do that? The Democratic Party (of free stuff) is in shambles and will be worse off after the mid term elections. You don't see Democrats up for re-election, like Liz Warren or Maura Healey, coming out big for amnesty. Maura has suddenly focused on a few token issues in attempts to show voters she finally gets the fact she is the Attorney General of Massachusetts only. Even Maura and Liz can see what embracing amnesty would mean to their re-election chances. Neither are the best and brightest to come out of Harvard. Do you think they know something the president does not?

Any DACA legislation Congress would pass will not involve 4 million illegal immigrants nor will it involve full citizenship (voting rights) for any of the dreamers. It just can't. By allowing the issue to pass into Congress' court Trump has craftily also allowed the issue to become temporarily beyond his control. When the time comes voters will see why he did this.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Eric K » Sep Fri 15, 2017 4:47 pm

If he signs it.
There is no way he would win a second term as a republican if he signs this into law.

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Re: President Trump

Post by Joseph » Sep Sun 17, 2017 10:46 pm

Why is the fate of 'The Wall' a bargaining chip for the Democrats and Trump?
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: President Trump

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Thu 21, 2017 4:34 pm

Some choice comments on 15 state AGs, including Ma. of course, most recent law suit against the president's decision to end DACA
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... mothe.html
Mark
13 days ago
I need explanation. I understand this as MA working-hard taxpayer money paying this public servant to sue the POTUS for the rights of ILLEGAL immigrants. I want my state tax money back. I have the right not to support this effort against my home country.
Wes
Sep 7, 2017
When will this dykes get it through her warped head? THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS! They're illegals. They shouldn't be receiving any benefits or preference at all.
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Sep 7, 2017
Maura Healey is a self serving lifetime politician who is doing the bidding of the liberal Democrat hierarchy! She's hoping if she kowtows to them, she'll be in line for a better position.

What I see here is that the Democrats don't agree with TRUMP about protecting American lives and America.

Do we know if DACA students were creating or supporting some of the problem in Colleges and Universities? I think it's a fair question. The D's will fight TRUMP'S decision on DACA because they have an INTEREST in causing problems for TRUMP and what he's trying to do....PROTECT AMERICAN LIVES and AMERICA!

I don't believe the likes of Maura and Elizabeth Warren. I think they've put themselves before our Country, and firmly believe they can make better decisions for us....that is "CONTROLLING" THEIR CONSTITUENTS, NOT LEADING THEM. Both have let me down.
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@retiredtaxpayer
There is a very real and disturbing scenario: my loyalty and party grandstanding for money, support and votes.
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Sep 7, 2017
DACA applies to ‘children’ up to age 35 – so not really these helpless little babies the media would have you believe.

Dreamers are illegal aliens.

DACA is really an amnesty program.

DACA is illegal – and not because of the use of an EO – but because we have an immigration law and this is in direct violation of that law.

DACA is unconstitutional – Obama over-reached his authority by granting amnesty and benefits to these Dreamers. I’m not constitutional lawyer – so let’s check with one –
FreedomToBeLeftAlone
Sep 7, 2017
"After it was signed, 26 states where suing the Obama administration over DACA. Now that it’s being rescinded, 15 states are suing Trump – interestingly the basis for their suit is that Trump didn’t follow the necessary rule making process – you know that same rule making process that Obama avoided when he single-handedly enacted DACA."
http://turtleboysports.com/the-reality-of-the-dreamers/

yars
Sep 7, 2017
This lawsuit is complete nonsense. It asks a court to mske a determination of policy. News flash: that's not the job of ANY court.

Time to impeach our moron attorney general.
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Sep 6, 2017
How cute and politically correct, that she supports people who circumvent the law to stay in this country. Meanwhile, others who want to live here stupidly go through the usual customs per the immigration laws.
Eric Lindholm
Sep 6, 2017
October 25, 2010: Obama in the fall of 2010 was under intense pressure to take action on immigration from advocacy groups, particularly on behalf of people who were brought to the United States illegally as children.

Obama pushed back on those calls in an interview with Univision.

"My Cabinet has been working very hard on trying to get it done, but ultimately, I think somebody said the other day, I am president, I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself,” he said.

And then - one magical day - he could!
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... or-remarks

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Sep 6, 2017
""These lawsuits are not filed lightly," she lied.

Fixed that for you.

This lawsuit is a complete sham and a waste of Massachusetts taxpayers money, namely Maura Healey's salary. There isn't any standing for the states to claim "harm" because illegal immigrants will be removed from colleges or workplaces. This lawsuit is the very definition of frivolous grands
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Sep 6, 2017
Her job is to protect citizens of the Commonwealth. King Solomon she is not. She cannot choose who to defend and whom to prosecute. This is a matter of Federal Law and Congress must deal with it.

The failure that preceded President Trump, by his own admission, did something he was not legally entitled to do. Trump is trying to force Congress to act. Healey is grandstanding hoping to garner votes for the election next year. That is all.
uno who
Sep 6, 2017
When you fail to protect the Constitutional Rights of US citizens, you have a lot of nerve protecting illegals/undocumented immigrants. Why in the world would you waste your time and taxpayer money fighting a lost cause?

This smoke and mirror stuff is getting old.
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@uno who
Ironic Speaking out for undocumented immigrants..and sanctuary cities garners attention and assures loyal Democratic party support. Doesn't help the average Massachusetts worker and taxpayer.
Ben Gazi
Sep 6, 2017
OK, "The lawsuit says Massachusetts universities and businesses "rely heavily" on immigrants and many of them are DACA beneficiaries. Harvard University has 50 DACA students enrolled in classes, according to the lawsuit".

Simple resolution - replace them all with US citizens!
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To bring a lawsuit, you need to show "standing" in that you were harmed somehow. Maura claims MA is harmed because losing those students hurts Harvard.

Isn't it more reasonable to say that MA students are harmed by spots at Harvard being taken by illegal immigrants and fake Indians?

(That last one was for you, Liz.)
93 comments very few were even marginally for continuing DACA. Many posts were directed at Maura Healey.

I know its possible to be elected in Massachusetts just by the votes of those who habitually vote the party line. But more and more people are paying attention and it seems Maura may have a little problem come next election.

The Reality of the Dreamers
Current events Posted on September 6, 2017 —by Lady Turtle
https://turtleboysports.com/the-reality ... -dreamers/
And if we want to suspend reality a bit – you know – the one where all these Dreamers are pursuing degrees – and think about what that would mean for my kids and the kids of these bleeding-heart libs. Just like there are a limited number of jobs there are a limited number of spots in each incoming college class. So, what happens when little Johnny doesn’t get into his dream school because little Jose took his spot? Are these screaming lefties really OK with sacrificing there’s child’s dream for the dream of an illegal alien? Is that their ‘white guilt’ speaking? You know that it is.
This is obviously a complicated issue and one that shouldn’t be enacted with a single stroke of a pen. It belongs in Congress – debated by our representatives. Trump is forcing them to finally deal with this issue, he’s giving them 6 months – they’ve failed for 16 years to figure it out- but now the pressue is on. Obama took the easy way out and kicked the can down the road and put the country in the position it is today. He should be shouldering the blame, but just like every other snowflake – it’s someone else’s fault.
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Re: President Trump

Post by Mac66 » Oct Wed 04, 2017 9:48 am


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