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Post by JIMD » Apr Sat 26, 2014 5:00 pm

Wonder this gutless puke thought this up on his own, or maybe borrowed a page from the Al-Q playbook. How inspirational...

Glad you made this an issue, many women have fought and died in battle in the past decade, Barry has been the commander for 6 years, does that make him a gutless puke for placing women in harms way?

I bet some Marine Women or the women on the ranch could teach you a lesson or two in bravery and courage
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Post by Vlad_Rap » Apr Sun 27, 2014 11:45 am

Leave it to Hannity et al to turn this issue into one that will squeeze out the biggest bucks. So now we have an emotional hot button social issue instead of what it should be - Big Government v. private civil rights.

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Post by JIMD » Apr Sun 27, 2014 12:06 pm

The democrats want to turn this into anything but big government
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Post by Marshead » Apr Mon 28, 2014 2:24 pm

Lein the cattle. No automatic weapons required. He owes money.
What a gutless (and ill-informed) dodge.

Bundy has been the subject of multiple lawsuits and numerous civil judgments over a period of what -- a decade? More than that?

There is every reason to believe that the government ALREADY has placed a lien on Bundy's cattle, as is so often done in collection cases, and in civil litigation generally. But at SOME point, you need to EXECUTE on your lien, meaning to seize the asset in question and to sell it at auction, in order to satisfy the underlying debt. But so long as this tax-dodging, USA-denying, treasonous, racist pr*ck has friends and supporters such as yourself lined up with AR-15s and eager to sacrifice their women and children in exchange for taking out a few federal law enforcement officials, a peaceful resolution is not in the cards. And if there is one drop of blood spilled, it will be on the hands of Bundy and those who support that misguided, traitorous dolt.
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Post by MCasper » Apr Mon 28, 2014 3:29 pm

Marshead wrote:
Lein the cattle. No automatic weapons required. He owes money.
What a gutless (and ill-informed) dodge.

1) It is gutsy to kill them? To sic dogs on them? and taser them? and point automatic weapons at them?

2) As usual, it is you that are ill-informed ...
Meanwhile, a coalition of five state lawmakers released a letter calling for an investigation by the interim Legislative Committee on Public Lands, chaired by Assemblyman Paul Aizley, D-Las Vegas.
As you are aware, a situation raised its ugly head last week in Bunkerville, Nevada, that easily could have escalated into something where scores of people may have lost their lives. It is our belief that this incident was handled incorrectly by the Federal agencies that were placed in charge and that an abuse of authority like this must never be allowed to happen in Nevada again.

While the situation was defused before anyone got hurt, we, the undersigned Legislators, feel that the people of Nevada must have a public inquiry, specifically by the State of Nevada, to find the root causes for these actions in order to ensure that there is never a repeat of this dangerous situation.

Although we do not feel Mr. Bundy is without blame, there are many unanswered questions as to why this situation took place, including but not limited to:

1. Who ordered the armed incursion?

2. At what decision-making level was this ordered?

3. Were any elected officials involved in this?

4. Who was on the ground as far as Federal law enforcement? What was their authority and what jurisdiction did they have and who conveyed that power, especially in light of 43 U.S.C. § 1733(c)(1) …

5. What was the root reason for the incursion? If it was for unpaid fees, why would the Federal Government spend more money to collect the cattle than they would be able to recoup from the sale of such?

6. Why was a lien not placed on the proceeds from Mr. Bundy’s cattle sales, or property, instead of an armed incursion?

7. If this was an attempt to conserve the desert tortoise as reported, how does one explain the fact that the tortoise and the cattle have lived in harmony for over 100 years on that particular range? Also, how does one explain the fact that the BLM has euthanized hundreds of tortoises citing a lack of funds for their care?

8. It has been reported that the BLM destroyed many guzzlers and other water systems in the area during their seizure operation in violation of state law. If this is the case, can criminal charges be filed against these offenders?

9. There have been many rumors concerning interests outside the government being involved in this dispute. These need to be thoroughly vetted in a public hearing for validity.

Therefore, we the undersigned Legislators are requesting that an investigation be conducted by the State of Nevada into the situation that took place between the BLM and Cliven Bundy. We not only request that this situation be investigated, but also request that the State publish a report with explanations as to actions that can be taken by the Federal Government and the State of Nevada that will ensure a situation like this never happens again. We respectfully request this public inquiry be handled by your Committee given the powers of investigation and subpoena accorded to that Committee under Nevada statute. We also call for a simultaneous investigation to be conducted by the Attorney General’s Office. A similar letter is being sent to the interim Legislative Committee on Public Lands.

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Post by JIMD » Apr Mon 28, 2014 7:23 pm

You libs are pretty blood thursty, what gives? I read the NYTimes and the libs wanted air stikes and full asssault, blood thursty.

Right now Americans will not put up with another slaughter from the feds, they know it and we know it.

So the feds are out a million, is that worth one life? Jeez the Prez's wife spends a million on hair, dresses and what not
Good Grief it's like France prior to their revolution

Glad you made this an issue, many women have fought and died in battle in the past decade, Barry has been the commander for 6 years, does that make him a gutless puke for placing women in harms way?

Does it?
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Post by specialties » Apr Mon 28, 2014 9:13 pm

And go play the race cards for a few days while you dream up something else...

Who cares about HIV, pink hair, or the little general??

After all, you got your 1st too... Eh snoop??

Ahhh, the Russian revolution all over again... Only the characters change...

Marx rising in your moon... After 7 trill it don't work here, neither??? So your ass is waning...

Too bad, your kids get the bill anyhow... Tinker tots fer sure on steroids even...
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Post by Marshead » Apr Wed 30, 2014 11:04 am

A letter signed by a handful of far-right local officials? Oh, how compelling.

Spare us the drivel, and just hop back in bed with your existence-of-the-USA-denying (but U.S.-flag-flying), treasonous, freeloading, racist, dumber-than-a-bag-of-rocks hero. You two look good together. Maybe Mugs and Phil Robertson could make it a foursome.

P.S. You Tea Party extremists can never, EVER call anyone else "unpatriotic" or "un-American" again. You are in bed with and publicly supporting someone who is in armed rebellion against the federal government, and who denies the very existence of that federal government -- of the United States of America -- while extolling the supposed virtues of slavery on television. Clearly, you have no sense of shame (which even Sean Hannity has, surprisingly enough). Bundy is probably related to another of your heroes, that ultimate champion of "states' rights" (a.k.a., the so-called right to engage in appalling, unjust, anachronistic, backward and exploitative behavior without interference from the more enlightened elements of our national union) -- Jefferson Davis. Or maybe Donald Sterling is hiring a new PR team. Mark should toss his hat in the ring.
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Post by JIMD » Apr Wed 30, 2014 11:18 am

You know what's strange is Sterling has a very long well known history of being a bigot. Up until a week ago the NAACP was going to gove Sterling an award for being a civil rights defender along with Rev Al.


More enlightened elements of our national union,,,,who would that be?
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Post by specialties » Apr Wed 30, 2014 2:45 pm

Sterling isn't so very actually sterling, and neither are his 'counters'... So go flub a duck X 2...

It's two ends of a bell curve and for everyone to see.. I say cut them both off like dags on a sheep's rear...

OK, so I am color blind when it comes to real...

One nation under God with freedom, liberty, and justice for all...

So what does skin color have to do about it, cept for al, mushy, and the 'slave industry'.??.

Ambulance chasers all... Bambulance too...

The cowboy owes unkle sam 300K, and fat al 3 mil... So what the hey??? Just one order of ten differential???
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Post by lost cause » Apr Wed 30, 2014 2:57 pm

I am surprised that the MSM went after Donald Sterling at all considering that he is a democrat.
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Post by HokieAl » Apr Wed 30, 2014 3:05 pm

When will they go after Larry Johnson?
In Wake Of Sterling Fiasco, Ex-Knicks Great Larry Johnson Appears To Call For All-Black League
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Post by specialties » Apr Wed 30, 2014 5:04 pm

Looks like sterling/johnson are a wash... No noise over the latter though...

Harlem Globe Trotters always did well...

Why did they take sterling's money without a quip?? That's different...

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Post by JIMD » Apr Wed 30, 2014 7:38 pm

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/04/30/2 ... 100/&ihp=1#

People who support the FEDS and the BLM tactics support the thugs in the article, is this the government you really want.
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Post by JIMD » May Thu 01, 2014 1:13 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
Everyday I can find an article about how the FEDS are out of control, why do you Libs back these guys up? Is it because Barry's the prez, is that the only reason?
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Post by MCasper » May Thu 01, 2014 6:57 pm

Marshead wrote:A letter signed by a handful of far-right local officials? Oh, how compelling.

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Did you miss???
chaired by Assemblyman Paul Aizley, D-Las Vegas.
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Post by MCasper » May Thu 01, 2014 7:03 pm

Marshead wrote:... P.S. You Tea Party extremists can never, EVER call anyone else "unpatriotic" or "un-American" again. ...
Tea Party?


You have become unhinged here on this thread?
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Marshead wrote:... -- Jefferson Davis. Or maybe Donald Sterling ...
Both Democrats I believe?
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Post by JIMD » May Thu 01, 2014 7:09 pm

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/04/30/tw ... ive-force/

another fine example of the governemnt Marshead supports, look at the tape
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Post by specialties » May Thu 01, 2014 9:01 pm

You Tea Party extremists
8) No Lie!! The pinkos really think so....

But bedrock America knows way better... Look ashamed, mushy, yours tails are dragging...

* Factoid: It only took Nixon one lie to get bounced... Shrill sed...
So what's the handicap for pinkos, wannabees, and know nots???

Keep bringing it down, mushy, we haven't had enuf yet... Finish with the famous vinegar stroke...

Are we up or down yet, over??
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Post by Fugedaboudit » May Thu 15, 2014 8:42 pm

The Department of Agriculture Launches Proposal To Purchase Submachine Guns

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-1 ... chine-guns

Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The following solicitation from the U.S. Department of Agriculture almost defies belief. We’ve seen this type of bizarre behavior before, but it has mostly originated from the American Gestapo, aka the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). I highlighted this trend early last year in my post: Department of Homeland Security to Purchase 7,000 “Assault Weapons”.

Here’s a screenshot of the solicitation from the Department of Agriculture https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity ... e&_cview=0


Solicitation Number:
USDAOIGWEA-5-7-14
Notice Type:
Sources Sought
Synopsis:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:03 pm

The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation. NO SOLICITATION DOCUMENT EXISTS. All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone. If received timely, shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability.
Contracting Office Address:
1400 Independence Ave., SW, Room 40-E J.L. Whitten Fed Bldg
Washington, District of Columbia 20250
Place of Performance:
USDA, Office of Inspector General - Investigations
1400 Independence Avenue, SW
Washington, District of Columbia 20250
United States
Primary Point of Contact.:
Linda F. Josey,
Chief, Procurement Management Branch
linda.josey@oig.usda.gov
Phone: 2027208337
Secondary Point of Contact:
Desiree Clayton,
Contracting Officer
desiree.clayton@oig.usda.gov
Phone: 202-720-5931
Fax: 202-690-1282


What is so important to understand about the current war/civil unrest cycle that the world has now entered into is that it will affect different regions and nations differently. It appears tensions in the Ukraine/Russia region and the Asia/Pacific may rather quickly erupt into a war amongst nation-states. This could ultimately lead to a world war.

For the United States region, I predict more of a rebellion and civil unrest scenario that consists of the status quo versus the people. I also think its obvious the status quo knows this, which is why they are stealing everything in sight and setting up a total surveillance state. Things are going to get dicey, but the status quo is in the wrong and they will need to be tossed aside peacefully.

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Post by specialties » May Thu 15, 2014 8:53 pm

Too bad it has to blow up in their faces... They forgot to read summore... Soviets already tried that...
And even with 7 tril xtra cash it wun't work here neither... Like nervous novice in transfusion...

Putin the righteous knows how to lead his people... Like in the Spirit... He ain't ugly old joe, hero to asses...

The locals are in very low manifold pressure now... ( underboost ) The Frat House Dudes...

Watchoo got but walking your own plank?? Catch next neap flat tide if hip...

Real Americans... Hold the line, no blinking, stand fast... Yule know... Respect the man behind the wire...
Hopefully it will only come down over 'them'... 'They' can conduct their own holocost... ( the cost of being hollow )

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Post by Marshead » May Wed 21, 2014 12:09 pm

Donald Sterling last gave money to the Democratic Party in what...1991? He wasn't exactly Sheldon Adelson even then.

As for Jefferson Davis, he was a Democrat 150 years ago. Today, he'd be a Republican, like 90% of "states rights" white Southerners and virtually all Teabaggers. Starting with Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and continuing through the present - where the GOP has a stranglehold on the Old Confederacy - you guys pandered to and stole virtually all the rednecks. Good riddance. Old Abe himself wouldn't begin to recognize what has become of the Party of Lincoln.
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Post by specialties » May Wed 21, 2014 1:09 pm

8) It's a sockdolager of a deal busting Orwell chapter when a guy who said something to a concubine in private is now to pay almost a billion for his tongue...
Looks like more fictional news cabaret... Unreal...

Next frontier, the thought police... Better keep it quiet when mushy starts dropping more dimes...

Press on, mushy, the pogrom is near complete... 'Snitchology', the next new deal in law...

No wonder we're busted... Is Al your buddy race whore going to pay his 2.8 million tax bill??? Doubt it...
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It's a sockdolager of a deal busting Orwell chapter when a guy who said something to a concubine in private is now to pay almost a billion for his tongue...
Correction: He'll be receiving about $1 billion, give or take $100 million, for his interest in the Clippers. And while you probably found nothing objectionable about what the old, racist coot had to say to his concubine, the guy is bound by the NBA's Rules or Conduct, or whatever it's called that owners must sign when they buy a franchise. So he broke the rules of his own, private club. And even if the NBA's owners cannot force him to sell, he's a dead man walking, anyway. In a league that is more than 80% Black, no one will be willing to play for the Clippers as long as he is the owner, and no corporate sponsors -- the lifeblood of the league -- will touch the Clippers with a ten-foot pole.

Cliven Bundy and Donald Sterling -- you sure do have a way of picking shriveled-up racists as your heroes.
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Post by MCasper » May Wed 21, 2014 3:09 pm

Marshead wrote:... Cliven Bundy and Donald Sterling -- you sure do have a way of picking shriveled-up racists as your heroes.
Keep teetering between you are a dishonest person and you are an idiot ...

Try another test ...

Where were you on Skokie case??
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Is it Fair to say David Goldberger thought of Frank Collin as his hero?
Or just that the defending of rights and principles trumps the defendant in any given case?

If no, you are dishonest...
If yes, you are an idiot.

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Post by specialties » May Wed 21, 2014 3:36 pm

And while you probably found nothing objectionable about what the old, racist coot had to say to his concubine,


He apparently said something in a private conversation about someone that he did not like... I didn't know you birds were bugging his girl friend's head with a word trap...
Now, mr. wonderful avenger, what did he say about who??? Can you make that clear???
You recently failed the word test against the duke of ducks... What about this one???

In the back of my mind, like midnight in the bleachers watching the jury of the dammed, I think it was something about 'magic's hiv johnson'...
Was that it??? I didn't get the actual voice print... Boy, you spooks are everywhere...

What did he actually say??? And is it any of my business???
I recall lbj being very much bolder along the same lines, but you like him OK...

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Post by Marshead » May Thu 22, 2014 8:52 am

Mark:

Are you an assh*le who slings non-sequiturs, or just a tool who slings non-sequiturs?

I await your reply.

P.S. If you are implying that Mugs is making a principled stand on first amendment grounds, despite finding Sterling's comments personally reprehensible, MAKE ME LAUGH. Mugs has NEVER defended the First Amendment rights of any lefties, and somehow always manages a sympathetic word or a rationalization for racist deeds as well as words. He even defended those sadistic punks with long criminal records -- but white skin tone -- who nearly beat a poor black kid to death in front of The Garlic a few years ago. Black kid shoulda stayed up in Quincy, where he belongs, or words to that effect.
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Post by HokieAl » May Thu 22, 2014 9:14 am

Marshead wrote:NEVER defended the First Amendment rights of any lefties

You lefties just want to change the first amendment. That's typical of your hypocrisy. Freedom of speech as long as you agree with us. Raise taxes as long as we don't have to pay them. etc.

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Post by Marshead » May Thu 22, 2014 11:25 am

You lefties just want to change the first amendment.
Says who? If the NBA, which is essentially a private club with its own rules that must be agreed to and adhered to by its members, wants to kick out Donald Sterling, I have no problem with that whatsoever. But do I think he should face any criminal sanctions, or some sort of civil sanction, from any level or instrument of government? No, I do not. THAT is what the First Amendment protects against -- not against the fallout, in the private sphere, from saying incredibly stupid and offensive things.
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Post by HokieAl » May Thu 22, 2014 11:36 am

Marshead wrote: Says who?
Nancy Pelosi.

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by HokieAl » May Thu 22, 2014 11:47 am

Marshead wrote:But do I think he should face any criminal sanctions, or some sort of civil sanction, from any level or instrument of government? No, I do not. THAT is what the First Amendment protects against -- not against the fallout, in the private sphere, from saying incredibly stupid and offensive things.
I agree with that completely.

However it's interesting that a private club, private business etc. isn't immune to discrimination charges from the govt.

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by specialties » May Thu 22, 2014 12:33 pm

duped,

Who has to defend your 1st rights?? It's in our senses 24/7, so who cares if the rest of US join in???

You are sniveling again as you did with dead duck...

What did the doof say to his girlfriend about magic's johnson and what was the offense???

What was the quote that he said in private to his girlfriend?? This is #2 of same mud sling...


Why not just place your cell phone on charge in restaurants while connected to dnc A/V headquarters??

We read on how the black dahlia did just that... ( not the murdered one )

No thanks, most of US have a conscience and don't require your services... We'll leave that to the new age kgb thought cops...
First it was the CHURCH, then the FAMILY, and now the NATION...

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by Mac66 » Jun Mon 09, 2014 8:53 pm

Hours after a man and woman killed two police officers at an east Las Vegas pizza restaurant and then gunned down another victim at a nearby Wal-Mart before killing themselves, a picture of the shooters began to emerge.

Residents at an apartment complex where it appeared the two lived together said they had a reputation for spouting racist, anti-government views, bragging about their gun collection and boasting that they’d spent time at Cliven Bundy’s ranch during a recent standoff there between armed militia members and federal government agents.

The Lafayette (Ind.) Journal and Courier newspaper identified the couple this morning as Jerad and Amanda Miller.

According to one police official and a witness, one of the shooters shouted, “This is a revolution” and “We're freedom fighters.”

The duo also told people they planned to commit a mass shooting, said Brandon Moore, a resident of the complex.

"They were handing out white-power propaganda and were talking about doing the next Columbine," Moore said.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/ju ... ing-spree/

Sick punks.

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by MCasper » Jun Tue 10, 2014 6:15 am

Heh?
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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by Marshead » Jun Thu 12, 2014 8:16 am

Maybe this part escaped your notice:
Residents at an apartment complex where it appeared the two lived together said they had a reputation for spouting racist, anti-government views, bragging about their gun collection and boasting that they’d spent time at Cliven Bundy’s ranch during a recent standoff there between armed militia members and federal government agents.
These are your people, Mark. You, your buddy Clive, his buddies the fruity death-wish militia types -- all birds of the same, extreme, ideological feather.
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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by HokieAl » Jun Thu 12, 2014 8:22 am

Marshead wrote:
These are your people, Mark. You, your buddy Clive, his buddies the fruity death-wish militia types -- all birds of the same, extreme, ideological feather.
That's slanderous. If you want to group those killers in with "Clive" and the rest of us, then you would be fine with grouping yourself with terrorists such as Obama's buddy there Bill Ayers.

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by Mac66 » Jun Thu 12, 2014 9:17 am

Slander aside, bottom line has these people finding like minds and sympathy in the Bundy camp. The Bundy people booted them; too crazy.

The Nevada shooters were domestic terrorists motivated by fear and paranoia. Oklahoma City on a small scale...

The murdered police were family guys, on the job. Horrible story.

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2014/06/11/anti ... s-killings

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by HokieAl » Jun Thu 12, 2014 9:28 am

Mac66 wrote:Slander aside, bottom line has these people finding like minds and sympathy in the Bundy camp. The Bundy people booted them; too crazy.
You really think Clive sympathizes with them? Wow.

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Re: Cliven Bundy -- The Gift That Keeps On Giving...

Post by Mac66 » Jun Thu 12, 2014 9:36 am

They went to his camp, right? What makes you think he didn't? They clearly subscribed to his anti-government (no legitimate government) pro-gun, anti-cop, "the country needs a revolution now" pov right?

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